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Mar-3-17

Count The Cost of being the Lord’s

posted by PrayerWarrior

When I came to the Lord, I said Father here am I send me! He told me to count the cost, then put before my face many scriptures that showed me to really consider what it is to be used of the Lord to be called by the Lord. I will share as many as I can here with you and how it worked in my heart and mind to prepare me for a walk that was worthy of the Lord and His will and ways. He showed me one of the first things was to really consider what happens if you turn away from God and showed me 2 Peter 2:20-22

20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire. They are filthy again with the cares of the world and the pursuits of this life. This life is not about us! This life is about God and how much we love Him.

If we want to spend eternity in the presence of God, then we must live only for Him, here in this time now. Think about it, why would God want anyone who does not live in Him, for Him, and their life all about seeking to know Him better? Why would He want anyone who is not barely in love with Him? Those who pursue their own pleasures in this life are not a giving lover. This is a most intimate deep relationship we are to be pursuing with God the Father, through Christ Jesus! Not just oh when I have time God, I’ll give you one day a week take it or leave it okay! That does not work.

God is looking for sold out bought up servant’s who are willing vessels for His grace. Overflowing out of our lives into others lives. He wants to pour so much into you that you have no choice but to pour out onto others, from the abundance in your heart. So He tells us to count the cost. It is up to us to do that very thing. Because as Peter showed us it is worse for those who walked with God and had a bit of knowledge of Him who did not continue in their first love of Him, and keep on pursuing Him.

He wants us to forever keep seeking after Him, through His word, through many prayers, through tons of conversation with Him. He wants a close personal relationship with each of us, that suits perfectly to who we are! That’s right God tailors your relationship by how much you give to this relationship between you and He. We set the pace of our relationship with Him, not the other way around. But Isn’t this all about searching and seeking to know the object of your desire better, the most important thing in our whole life?

We have a whole entire eternity to look forward to if we love God with every ounce of our being, but if we turn away {and do not let anyone fool you with vain lies that say you cannot be removed from the book of Life you most certainly can, and will be cast into hell for it} He will turn away from you, and Jesus will not confess your name before God the Father. God demands commands even that we love Him so that He may reward us lavishly forever. No two days the same everything new and amazing every moment for eternity. Peace and joy so overwhelming if we were in our mortal flesh we would disintegrate with the power of it.

But if we refuse and reject then an eternity of burning and suffering forever. Where worms eat you and never die, and you never die. When every opportunity you ever had of coming to the Lord and the knowledge of the truth, rides before your memory with palpable regret, forever and ever. Hating yourself knowing this is where you made yourself have to go. Knowing this is what you deserve for not wanting to be the Lord’s in this life. All for a short life that really amounted to no meaning at all in it, because you were so unhappy unsatisfied unfulfilled throughout this life and all you had to do was listen to those who tried so ardently to tell you you were in danger.

Yeah what an eternity that is!

Anyway back to the scriptures. Luke 14:25-35 25 And there went great multitudes with him: and he turned, and said unto them, 26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife,and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
27 And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.

28 For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, and counteth the cost, whether he have sufficient to finish it? 29 Lest haply, after he hath laid the foundation, and is not able to finish it, all that behold it begin to mock him, 30 Saying, This man began to build, and was not able to finish. 31 Or what king, going to make war against another king, sitteth not down first, and consulteth whether he be able with ten thousand to meet him that cometh against him with twenty thousand?

32 Or else, while the other is yet a great way off, he sendeth an ambassage, and desireth conditions of peace. 33 So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.34 Salt is good: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be seasoned? 35 It is neither fit for the land, nor yet for the dunghill; but men cast it out. He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.

When the Lord says he who has ears to hear let him hear, we really want to pay close attention. This is a cue for us to give our ears over to the Holy Spirit so He can fill us in. The Lord cue’s us in when we are supposed to pay extra special attention to something He has said with either, I tell you the truth, or repeating something 2 or 3 times. Verily Verily I say unto you is another cue to pay close attention to His words.

Throughout the word we can find these things in Jesus words. But what you can clearly see is in the word the Lord used very few words to get the message out. I honestly personally believe He did this so as to confuse and confound those who are not filled with the Holy Spirit. The bible is foolishness to the perishing, those who do not have the power of the Holy Spirit cannot get the rest of the meaning, because it is Holy Spirit discerned. The rest of the story get’s filled in (for me personally) as I study intensely the word for myself. Having no human being filling me in on the word and it’s meaning, is the only way I can do the word.

When I have heard others views, ideas and understanding, I always come to the conclusion that they do not understand the word. I cannot sit idly by and accept other’s teaching and must go study whatever topic half to death. Using tools for great in depth bible study is important no man’s ideas but verses that pertain to the same subject matter, works wonderfully. A great cross reference study bible is always a great tool. There is also sites I use that have wonderful cross reference bible verses on the side called, bible hub, and then one of my favorites is info.bible.com.

Looking back at those bible verses in Luke let’s go through them by threes? Jesus was sharing with a great amount of people before He went to the cross even, that we must pick up our cross and drop everything else and follow Him. If we cannot do that because of loyalties to our family and or friends then He tells us simply, you are not worthy of me. We should love Him so much that our love of others looks like hatred, when compared. Verses 25-27.

Verses 28-30 speak on the fact that before we would begin to build anything we would need to make sure we have enough to finish the project, or risk looking like a fool. The risks of looking like a fool are small when you think of the fact that starting in the Lord and not going on with Him forever till you either die or come to the end of this world, is a very poor idea. It shows that you were not really thinking of the possibility of being unable to complete your mission, for lack of trusting the Lord to do it all. We would not look bad to people, but to the Lord, and looking like a failure to the Lord is the worst thing that could happen to us.

He expects us to trust Him and obey Him, at all times. He expects us to come to Him who is capable beyond our human understanding, to handle everything for us by living in us and through us. He is not looking for part time children and or shared custody of us. He wants us to deliver ourselves over to His hands fully and completely, without reservation and without pulling ourselves in and out of that very capable hand, whenever we feel it is too much or whatever else would pull us away from Him. To be fully immersed in Him and building daily our relationship with Him.

We must dedicate time to Him and pursuing Him. Of course He knows we must work for a living and to do all things that pertain to life, but in Him is where strength courage and stamina is really realized. So that we walk through this life in the way He wants us to. Not allowing depression any quarter, not allowing our own weaknesses and or illnesses to slow us stop us, or bring us to a halt in our walk with Him. Which brings me to another point. Satan throws everything at us but the kitchen sink, we cannot allow him and his antics to derail our walk. We cannot allow feelings of hurt and anger to stop us from moving always forward in the Lord.

Death should not even slow us down, the death of our loved ones I mean. We do not mourn as the world mourns, 1 Thess 4:13-14. We sorrow of course when we lose one we love, but just pick up in the Lord trusting Him that your loved one is in His capable hands, and move forward, being built up and strengthened in Him. He takes our cares upon Himself if and when we allow Him to. Picking our own thoughts and feelings back up on a constant basis, we must repent of that, and drop it all at His feet again and again. We are human beings who make mistakes, and this is one of those huge mistakes that causes us grief and sorrow. Picking our problems back up and worrying them in our minds and hearts, is a great way to lose our joy and peace in the Lord.

Verses 31-33. Speaks about going to war and counting out how it will all go down. Basically when one is planning to go to war against another kingdom or government, or country, one would do intense study of one’s foe, and how many men he will come to meet you at war with. It is telling us plan in advance for every contingency, so as not to fall away and lose. In this case it is losing your eternal rewards and spiritual death occurs, when one leaves off the Lord and His will and ways, before the race (so to speak) is over, being called disqualified by the Lord, is a very scary thing.

We must put aside every desire we have every thought that is self-contained, and everything that we think in order to put Him inside us. If we walk away He will pull back, if we stay in Him, then He will remain in us and with us. We cannot afford to be cut off from the Lord, or our condemnation will be swift. In a vision I had a couple years ago now, I saw the children of God walking in His shadow and the forces of evil just on the outskirts of God’s shadow, waiting ever watching for those to step out of line, and then devouring them once they did step out from His shadow covering. It was horrifying to watch as the fear and horror and invasion of themselves occurred unto death.

These people, the look on their faces was unimaginable as they were consumed by evil, lest evil lose a new disciple back to the Lord, so they were destroyed immediately. I do not want to see that happen. Hell is chock full of good people, people who even read their bible thinking they were saved not knowing truth for themselves. Many people, not all but most people who claim Christ, do not know the first thing about being saved or about being born again and about living for the Lord, and not themselves.

Gay people molesters whatever you want to cook up in your mind as sin, none of these is more sin than any other thing. Sin is sin before the Father and he cannot look upon sin in any form. From the mildest in your mind to the most deplorable sin they are all sin and equal in the eyes of God. I love my gay friends and family, but am under no delusion they live to please their sinful flesh, they will go to hell. The same with liars and thieves and whore mongers murderers, sin is sin, and living without God means going to hell. Even those who are gay and claim Christ is theirs, they don’t know how wrong they are. Living for ourselves is not picking up your cross daily.

Living for God is self sacrificing. It is dropping your hopes dreams and mostly your fleshly desires at the door. Every morning when we awaken we renew our dedication to the Lord. A new day another day to get closer to God not living to fulfill your most base desires, but living to please Him, which is to love Him with all our heart soul and mind, and love our neighbors as ourselves. Truly I must confess the second one is so hard in this day and age, but we cannot afford to lose the love or we are worth nothing at all.

The Lord showed me many verses that show what happens if you walk away from Him.
Hebrews 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.
7 For the earth which drinks in the rain that often comes upon it, and bears herbs useful for those by whom it is cultivated, receives blessing from God; 8 but if it bears thorns and briers, it is rejected and near to being cursed, whose end is to be burned.

Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries. 28 Anyone who has rejected Moses’ law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,”says the Lord. And again, “The Lord will judge His people.” 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

John 15:1 “I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. 2 Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit He takes away;[a] and every branch that bears fruit He prunes, that it may bear more fruit. 3 You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you. 4 Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me.

5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing. 6 If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. Read that carefully. Read it a few times taste it sound it out as you read it think on it and understand He will throw you in the fire if you walk away from Him.

He wants that we all repent confess our sins and ask forgiveness for them. When He sent Jesus, Jesus did not die so you could be a sinner forever more, He died so you can be set free from sin live a Holy life and be alive with Him forever more in the Kingdom in New Jerusalem. He died so you can be purified in and through Him. That you no longer live your life, but hand it back to Him as payment for His life.

God is not looking for anyone who is not interested in walking out their every moment of life in Him. He is looking for the most devoted bride He can find, no other will do for His son. He is not coming back right now because we are a big bunch of filthy people with our most amazing righteous works being as filthy as dirty rags. People think they are so good and don’t even know the Lord at all and or what is His will and ways, but they believe they will be removed any moment, how foolish to ignore the word of God.

Those people who claim Christ and show they are not His, are so blatantly not anywhere near the child of God they call themselves. The cannot imagine how very clear it is to see that they do not know the truth for themselves that they indeed have demons doctrines and false teachers mentalities. We must know the Lord for ourselves this is how He teaches us to walk in Him every step we take in this life.

We must be sold out to Him entirely body soul and heart. This is the only thing God accepts, is those whose whole life is not dedicated to pursuing joy and happiness on earth, but they who pursue God and seek more and more knowledge of Him daily. Their only mission in this life is to know Him more, to be moved closer to Him in spirit and heart. To walk in the very power that raised Christ from the dead. Not a powerless useless life all done in our own strength.

When we are sick that is satan working against us to slow us down. Ill health does not come from the Lord, it comes from the enemy, we are to rebuke it and cast it off of us, commanding it to leave us and then walk in the knowledge that in Christ is no illness, no infirmity! He is whole and complete and is not sick or feeble, so if He lives in us and through us, then we are His vessel. There is no holes so to speak in His pitcher. He overflows us with grace and knowledge and wisdom and we from that abundance pour out on others lives, deliberate pouring out so we do not miss our targeted empty glass, that just waits to be filled.

So in closing, Do not come to the Father thinking to use Him when you need Him, and then the rest of the time relegate Him to the back of your heart life and mind. He will allow you your free will, it is up to you to make sure you find out from the Father how not to falter. It is up to us to maintain our life in Him and grow our connection with Him. We control our relationship with the Father, He does not. We choose how close and how deep we go into this relationship with Him. But oh friends brothers sisters in Him, the rewards of being called His friend and Confidante are priceless and plentiful.

Jan-24-17

The 24 Elders Of Revelation

posted by PrayerWarrior

I have heard even people I trust immensely with the word of God seem to come to a conclusion that these 24 elders are redeemed human beings. However, the word of God clears this up when you put all of the talking points about these and who and what they are together. So many ignore the fact that the beasts are heavenly beings and yet they are singing right along side of those elders, the same song as the elders, that they have been redeemed but the four living creatures are clearly not humans and never have been. This to me is wrong in so many ways on so many levels.

The beasts are not redeemed from the earth by the lamb and have indeed been there for a long time as we saw that Ezekiel saw them when he had visions. The creatures also sing with the 24 elders the same song as the elders!
Ezekiel 1:5 Within it there were figures resembling four living beings. And this was their appearance: they had human form.
Ezekiel 1:18 As for their rims they were lofty and awesome, and the rims of all four of them were full of eyes round about.
Ezekiel 1:22 Now over the heads of the living beings there was something like an expanse, like the awesome gleam of crystal, spread out over their heads.
Ezekiel 10:12 Their whole body, their backs, their hands, their wings and the wheels were full of eyes all around, the wheels belonging to all four of them.

Daniel saw these also. But he describes thrones in heaven Daniel 7:9. Something else I noticed, which people seem to forget as they place their own meaning and or interpretation upon the word, that not only are redeemed humans in white but so are angels and spirits, and so is Jesus in White. So white clothing or raiment cannot be construed as saying that those in white are only the redeemed!

Revelation 4:4 Around the throne were twenty-four thrones, and on the thrones, I saw twenty-four elders sitting, clothed in white robes; and they had crowns of gold on their heads. 7 The first living creature was like a lion, the second living creature like a calf, the third living creature had a face like a man, and the fourth living creature was like a flying eagle. 8 The four living creatures, each having six wings, were full of eyes around and within. And they do not rest day or night, saying: “Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, Who was and is and is to come!”

In Isaiah 6: 2 Above it stood seraphim; each one had six wings: with two he covered his face, with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew. 3 And one cried to another and said: “Holy, holy, holy is the Lord of hosts; The whole earth is full of His glory!”

So since these have been doing this forever crying out how Holy the Lord our God is and these thrones Daniel saw were already there before the NT and no one went to heaven before the Lord ascended back to where He came from, this to me is partial proof that these 24 elders are not human and never have been. I have more proof as well, so hang in there with me!

Now the 24 elders we can see in 1 Chronicles 24:1-19 everything David was shown about what the temple on earth should look like, was all a perfect copy of what is in heaven and has been since before time began. The 24 thrones the 24 elders here on earth, all replica’s of what heaven has. God is no respecter of men, so it makes sense there is no human being honored in heaven above any other no matter how much they did for God and in the Lord.

These 24 elders do not get redeemed as we can see in Revelation 19 they are still there and not invited to the weddings feast of the lamb. Something else you need to notice is this, the wedding feast of the lamb has finally come and this is right after the Lamb/the lion of the tribe of Judah, The Lord our God in the form of Jesus, is finally pouring out the wrath of God.

Look with me. Revelation 19:1-5 After these things I heard a loud voice of a great multitude in heaven, saying, “Alleluia! Salvation and glory and honor and power belong to the Lord our God! 2 For true and righteous are His judgments, because He has judged the great harlot who corrupted the earth with her fornication; and He has avenged on her the blood of His servants shed by her.” 3 Again they said, “Alleluia! Her smoke rises up forever and ever!”

4 And the twenty-four elders and the four living creatures fell down and worshiped God who sat on the throne, saying, “Amen! Alleluia!” 5 Then a voice came from the throne, saying, “Praise our God, all you His servants and those who fear Him, both small and great!”
Why aren’t these supposedly redeemed 24 elders shouting with us but instead are giving their own worship and praise to the Lord? Because this is what they have done since Heaven was made, and that is what they will do for eternity.

But let’s go back to Revelation 4 and Revelation 5 and check it out a little better.

4 Around the throne were twenty-four thrones, and on the thrones, I saw twenty-four elders sitting, clothed in white robes; and they had crowns of gold on their heads.
9 Whenever the living creatures give glory and honor and thanks to Him who sits on the throne, who lives forever and ever, 10 the twenty-four elders fall down before Him who sits on the throne and worship Him who lives forever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying: 11 “You are worthy, O Lord, To receive glory and honor and power; For You created all things, And by Your will they exist and were created.”

Let’s keep going. Revelation 5:8 Now when He had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each having a harp, and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints. 9 And they sang a new song, saying: “You are worthy to take the scroll, And to open its seals; For You were slain, And have redeemed us to God by Your blood Out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation, 10 And have made us kings and priests to our God; And we shall reign on the earth.”

While it is these beings the 24 elders saying or singing this so are the four creatures or beasts. Those beasts have been seen by all the prophets who have seen into heaven in the past. They seem to be tied together irrevocably. Those beats have been screaming out how Holy The Lord is and when they do the 24 elders fall down and worship every time.

Now look at this set of verses and let’s see if I can’t show what the Lord made abundantly clear to me. Rev 19:6-8
6 And I heard, as it were, the voice of a great multitude, as the sound of many waters and as the sound of mighty thunderings, saying, “Alleluia! For the Lord God Omnipotent reigns! 7 Let us be glad and rejoice and give Him glory, for the marriage of the Lamb has come, and His wife has made herself ready.” 8 And to her it was granted to be arrayed in fine linen, clean and bright, for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints.

The 24 elders in heaven on their 24 thrones already have their white fine linen you mean to tell me they have already been rewarded, when the time of the reward of the saints is being shown here after Christ has destroyed the enemies of God? Judgment day is the last day, it is the {DAY} of the Lord which according to Zechariah 14:7 is one day only!

We will be taken up out of the way into the skies, nowhere does it ever say we are up in heaven celebrating while some of the Lord’s bride are still here being tortured maimed and killed for their witness of the Lord. Which that makes no sense if there is supposedly no Holy Spirit to convict the hearts of mankind and there is no Christians to teach the truth of the word of God, which no one can do in their own strength anyway. So pre-tribulation believers (false believers) have no understanding and show repeatedly they do not understand the word of God.

Revelation 11:16-18 And the twenty-four elders who sat before God on their thrones fell on their faces and worshiped God, 17 saying: “We give You thanks, O Lord God Almighty, The One who is and who was and who is to come Because You have taken Your great power and reigned. 18 The nations were angry, and Your wrath has come, And the time of the dead, that they should be judged, And that You should reward Your servants the prophets and the saints, And those who fear Your name, small and great, And should destroy those who destroy the earth.”

Now read that again because I am sure you missed it, as I had done many times before the Lord showed me this particular part of the prophecy. It is time to judge the dead and reward your saints. The elders are saying this to the Lord. How is it that the 24 elders are there at all if the saints have not been rewarded yet, and the dead have not been resurrected and judged yet?

We know from 1 Thessalonians 4 13-18 that the dead are resurrected first and the saints who are left alive in the blink of an eye, are changed into perfect immortal incorruptible human beings. So in light of those scriptures that makes no sense, that these elders are dead men who have already been rewarded as we know God never does anything in separation between one human being to another. God is no respecter of men period.

In Rev 19 the 24 elders are not singing with the throngs of humans who have just been resurrected/redeemed off the earth, they have their own praise and worship they are doing. They are not with the redeemed they are still right there with God and the 4 living creatures. God does not author confusion and when one want’s to find out the truth for themselves, we do not go to men but directly to the one who is Yes and Amen, we go to the author of Life the very word who put on flesh, Jesus Christ!

I ask men and they all have a different answer, and cannot explain satisfactorily enough how and why they arrived at their notions. So I go to the Father instead. I will pray and fast until I get the answer as well of course, as studying the word of God to get the truth. God does not let anyone down not ever. When we stand before Him there will be no excuses of why we did not for ourselves, know the word of God. We have the bible everywhere and at the ready! Yet there are many who just refuse to learn the word for themselves and that is such a pity.

The truth is out there for all of us to know and learn and live in faith and learn to grow in Him. We just have to seek His face for the answers! Pray and plead for your answers then go seeking them from the word of God. Look for the verses that carry the information you are seeking and then study those verses in their proper context and you will find all the answers right there in the word. I don’t even expect people to take my word for it, I expect everyone to go and seek for themselves, the truth.


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