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Jan-24-17

The 24 Elders Of Revelation

posted by PrayerWarrior

I have heard even people I trust immensely with the word of God seem to come to a conclusion that these 24 elders are redeemed human beings. However, the word of God clears this up when you put all of the talking points about these and who and what they are together. So many ignore the fact that the beasts are heavenly beings and yet they are singing right along side of those elders, the same song as the elders, that they have been redeemed but the four living creatures are clearly not humans and never have been. This to me is wrong in so many ways on so many levels.

The beasts are not redeemed from the earth by the lamb and have indeed been there for a long time as we saw that Ezekiel saw them when he had visions. The creatures also sing with the 24 elders the same song as the elders!
Ezekiel 1:5 Within it there were figures resembling four living beings. And this was their appearance: they had human form.
Ezekiel 1:18 As for their rims they were lofty and awesome, and the rims of all four of them were full of eyes round about.
Ezekiel 1:22 Now over the heads of the living beings there was something like an expanse, like the awesome gleam of crystal, spread out over their heads.
Ezekiel 10:12 Their whole body, their backs, their hands, their wings and the wheels were full of eyes all around, the wheels belonging to all four of them.

Daniel saw these also. But he describes thrones in heaven Daniel 7:9. Something else I noticed, which people seem to forget as they place their own meaning and or interpretation upon the word, that not only are redeemed humans in white but so are angels and spirits, and so is Jesus in White. So white clothing or raiment cannot be construed as saying that those in white are only the redeemed!

Revelation 4:4 Around the throne were twenty-four thrones, and on the thrones, I saw twenty-four elders sitting, clothed in white robes; and they had crowns of gold on their heads. 7 The first living creature was like a lion, the second living creature like a calf, the third living creature had a face like a man, and the fourth living creature was like a flying eagle. 8 The four living creatures, each having six wings, were full of eyes around and within. And they do not rest day or night, saying: “Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, Who was and is and is to come!”

In Isaiah 6: 2 Above it stood seraphim; each one had six wings: with two he covered his face, with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew. 3 And one cried to another and said: “Holy, holy, holy is the Lord of hosts; The whole earth is full of His glory!”

So since these have been doing this forever crying out how Holy the Lord our God is and these thrones Daniel saw were already there before the NT and no one went to heaven before the Lord ascended back to where He came from, this to me is partial proof that these 24 elders are not human and never have been. I have more proof as well, so hang in there with me!

Now the 24 elders we can see in 1 Chronicles 24:1-19 everything David was shown about what the temple on earth should look like, was all a perfect copy of what is in heaven and has been since before time began. The 24 thrones the 24 elders here on earth, all replica’s of what heaven has. God is no respecter of men, so it makes sense there is no human being honored in heaven above any other no matter how much they did for God and in the Lord.

These 24 elders do not get redeemed as we can see in Revelation 19 they are still there and not invited to the weddings feast of the lamb. Something else you need to notice is this, the wedding feast of the lamb has finally come and this is right after the Lamb/the lion of the tribe of Judah, The Lord our God in the form of Jesus, is finally pouring out the wrath of God.

Look with me. Revelation 19:1-5 After these things I heard a loud voice of a great multitude in heaven, saying, “Alleluia! Salvation and glory and honor and power belong to the Lord our God! 2 For true and righteous are His judgments, because He has judged the great harlot who corrupted the earth with her fornication; and He has avenged on her the blood of His servants shed by her.” 3 Again they said, “Alleluia! Her smoke rises up forever and ever!”

4 And the twenty-four elders and the four living creatures fell down and worshiped God who sat on the throne, saying, “Amen! Alleluia!” 5 Then a voice came from the throne, saying, “Praise our God, all you His servants and those who fear Him, both small and great!”
Why aren’t these supposedly redeemed 24 elders shouting with us but instead are giving their own worship and praise to the Lord? Because this is what they have done since Heaven was made, and that is what they will do for eternity.

But let’s go back to Revelation 4 and Revelation 5 and check it out a little better.

4 Around the throne were twenty-four thrones, and on the thrones, I saw twenty-four elders sitting, clothed in white robes; and they had crowns of gold on their heads.
9 Whenever the living creatures give glory and honor and thanks to Him who sits on the throne, who lives forever and ever, 10 the twenty-four elders fall down before Him who sits on the throne and worship Him who lives forever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying: 11 “You are worthy, O Lord, To receive glory and honor and power; For You created all things, And by Your will they exist and were created.”

Let’s keep going. Revelation 5:8 Now when He had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each having a harp, and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints. 9 And they sang a new song, saying: “You are worthy to take the scroll, And to open its seals; For You were slain, And have redeemed us to God by Your blood Out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation, 10 And have made us kings and priests to our God; And we shall reign on the earth.”

While it is these beings the 24 elders saying or singing this so are the four creatures or beasts. Those beasts have been seen by all the prophets who have seen into heaven in the past. They seem to be tied together irrevocably. Those beats have been screaming out how Holy The Lord is and when they do the 24 elders fall down and worship every time.

Now look at this set of verses and let’s see if I can’t show what the Lord made abundantly clear to me. Rev 19:6-8
6 And I heard, as it were, the voice of a great multitude, as the sound of many waters and as the sound of mighty thunderings, saying, “Alleluia! For the Lord God Omnipotent reigns! 7 Let us be glad and rejoice and give Him glory, for the marriage of the Lamb has come, and His wife has made herself ready.” 8 And to her it was granted to be arrayed in fine linen, clean and bright, for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints.

The 24 elders in heaven on their 24 thrones already have their white fine linen you mean to tell me they have already been rewarded, when the time of the reward of the saints is being shown here after Christ has destroyed the enemies of God? Judgment day is the last day, it is the {DAY} of the Lord which according to Zechariah 14:7 is one day only!

We will be taken up out of the way into the skies, nowhere does it ever say we are up in heaven celebrating while some of the Lord’s bride are still here being tortured maimed and killed for their witness of the Lord. Which that makes no sense if there is supposedly no Holy Spirit to convict the hearts of mankind and there is no Christians to teach the truth of the word of God, which no one can do in their own strength anyway. So pre-tribulation believers (false believers) have no understanding and show repeatedly they do not understand the word of God.

Revelation 11:16-18 And the twenty-four elders who sat before God on their thrones fell on their faces and worshiped God, 17 saying: “We give You thanks, O Lord God Almighty, The One who is and who was and who is to come Because You have taken Your great power and reigned. 18 The nations were angry, and Your wrath has come, And the time of the dead, that they should be judged, And that You should reward Your servants the prophets and the saints, And those who fear Your name, small and great, And should destroy those who destroy the earth.”

Now read that again because I am sure you missed it, as I had done many times before the Lord showed me this particular part of the prophecy. It is time to judge the dead and reward your saints. The elders are saying this to the Lord. How is it that the 24 elders are there at all if the saints have not been rewarded yet, and the dead have not been resurrected and judged yet?

We know from 1 Thessalonians 4 13-18 that the dead are resurrected first and the saints who are left alive in the blink of an eye, are changed into perfect immortal incorruptible human beings. So in light of those scriptures that makes no sense, that these elders are dead men who have already been rewarded as we know God never does anything in separation between one human being to another. God is no respecter of men period.

In Rev 19 the 24 elders are not singing with the throngs of humans who have just been resurrected/redeemed off the earth, they have their own praise and worship they are doing. They are not with the redeemed they are still right there with God and the 4 living creatures. God does not author confusion and when one want’s to find out the truth for themselves, we do not go to men but directly to the one who is Yes and Amen, we go to the author of Life the very word who put on flesh, Jesus Christ!

I ask men and they all have a different answer, and cannot explain satisfactorily enough how and why they arrived at their notions. So I go to the Father instead. I will pray and fast until I get the answer as well of course, as studying the word of God to get the truth. God does not let anyone down not ever. When we stand before Him there will be no excuses of why we did not for ourselves, know the word of God. We have the bible everywhere and at the ready! Yet there are many who just refuse to learn the word for themselves and that is such a pity.

The truth is out there for all of us to know and learn and live in faith and learn to grow in Him. We just have to seek His face for the answers! Pray and plead for your answers then go seeking them from the word of God. Look for the verses that carry the information you are seeking and then study those verses in their proper context and you will find all the answers right there in the word. I don’t even expect people to take my word for it, I expect everyone to go and seek for themselves, the truth.

Jan-6-15

Tasted, And Partook

posted by PrayerWarrior

What do these words mean? To taste, is to sample, to put some in your mouth. I like this one too, to perceive in any way. So that to me says tried! Partake, to take or have a part in; share. So to taste the Lord and to partake pretty much says you were a part of the Holy Spirit. To have been enlightened is, to give intellectual or spiritual light to; instruct; impart knowledge to:

In the Word we are told in Hebrews 6: 4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.

Let’s really break this down, because I want everyone to understand that this is no joke here, this is a very serious, and very important thing to understand.

You cannot partake of the Holy Spirit, unless you were under Him, in Him, or immersed in Him. You cannot have tasted God and the gifts of the Holy Spirit, if you are not truly His. These are not given to those who are not truly saved.

You cannot be apostate unless you were truly in Him! Look also at John 15:1-8 “I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. 2 Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit He prunes, that it may bear more fruit. 3 You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you. 4 Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me.

5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing. 6 If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. 7 If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you will ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you. 8 By this My Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit; so you will be My disciples.

So if we do not stay attached to the vine which is Jesus Christ we wither and die and are only good for the fire. That speaks of walking away. One cannot sin willfully after having received forgiveness of sins and then expect to go to heaven.

2 peter 2:20-22 For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world through the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first. For it would have been better for them never to have known the way of righteousness than after knowing it to turn back from the holy commandment delivered to them. What the true proverb says has happened to them: “The dog returns to its own vomit, and the sow, after washing herself, returns to wallow in the mire.”

The word is showing us over and over again our conditional salvation. Romans 5:9-10 Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him. 10 For if when we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life. Or if we die in Him and go to heaven.

look also at Matt 7:21-23, 21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

How can someone who is not a partaker of the Holy Spirit cast out demons and or prophecy? Jesus Himself said satan cannot or will not cast out a demon as that would be fighting against himself. Only those who have the Holy Spirit can prophesy or cast out demons so they had to have known Him and truly been in the Spirit for them to do those things!

Also notice Jesus did not deny that they did such, He told them they practice lawlessness. it is now worse for them than had they not known Him at all.

What no one seems to understand is the churches get judged first it is not exactly churches, it is the spirit of that particular sect of the Ekklesia, the body the chosen elect ones, (us the body of the Lord), that gets judged first, and if you are of the body you are a Christian! But they are going to be kicked out of the body, because they will not repent.
I don’t know why many people choose to overlook this, the judgement of the body comes before the judgement’s against the world, the ones who do not serve the Lord, those who have chosen against Jesus! Then those who were and have been in the body of believers, but for some reason lost their way, and they refuse to repent of their sins.

Study the first 3 chapters of Revelation seriously deeply, and see what Jesus is saying to those churches? These are not past tense churches, they did exist in a physical location before. They now do not have a physical location or area of the globe, now these churches exist in the spirit. Revelation has not begun just yet. I mean who knows I do believe the body is being judged right now.

The body is going to lose some members. How can we think one can not walk away from the promise when it has been done before? And God is never changing?
God has not changed one thing about Himself and who and what He is and is about.
The whole of everything was designed by Him He knows everything and shows us and tells us over and over again He does not change.

He knows when time would begin and time would end. He saw and knew our every moment, from before the foundations of the earth. He knows our death date and how we are going to die. He knows and knew long before He even made the world everything that would transpire.

He knows who chose Him, and He loved them unconditionally and they walked away from it, just like the devils or demons did, and just like the Israelites who were killed by the Lord our God, before reaching the promised land! People are still free to leave Him. He says He would not be the one to leave us! Hebrews 13:5 Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said, “Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you.”

He will never leave nor forsake us, but that does not mean people wont and haven’t forsaken Him. How can anyone think that God has changed in this aspect, even though we are under grace, people just like angels and in the OT, still choose to walk away from Him.

I cannot fathom that myself, even if one backslides a bit they are always forgiven upon repentance, and taken back into the fold. A name does not get blotted out just like that, it takes a lot to not be given another chance. God knows who is going to, and who will not stay His.

I could easily speak on the book of Revelation but no I am talking about judgment and no such thing as once saved always saved. The promises of God are conditional, all of them, they have always been. The condition is you stay in Him no matter what. Even if it means death.

Once saved always saved is not a fact unless one walks non stop in Him. But those who walk away, have at one time, walked with Him in Him and had the gifts they were true Christians. Anyone at any time can choose to walk away it is still free will. I cannot myself fathom a moment in life without Him, but that’s me and obviously you but to say people can never lose their salvation is just wrong. God does not stop loving no matter what, but just because He loves us no end, does not mean He will hold us, against our will, to Him.

Why would we be told to work out our OWN salvation with fear and trembling? Because we could easily walk away from Him. We could get carried away by the cares of the world! We must remain humble and contrite. There are many who served the Lord with everything they have, at one time, but many of them walked away.

The Lord, He told me a while back, 1 Cor 5:6, Gal 5:9 a little leaven, leavens the whole lump. What man teaches wrong and believes wrong, colors their thinking as to the truth of the Lord.

We are going to go through insane hell for one purpose! To show us rather we are devoted to the Lord or not! God knows who is and who is not His, but we do not even know that ourselves! When it comes down to insane testing, even painful testing, He knows, who will and who will not remain in Him. But He wants that each of us would in fact know for ourselves, truly if we are 100% in Him. He does not want slackers.

Fiery trials are for our good to make us even stronger in our trust of God, we better expect to go through the mill and then back through it. As Paul says in Acts 14:22 Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

What are we heading for after the tribulation? the millennial Kingdom!! So through MUCH tribulation we must enter it, and still stay in Him. For these temporary afflictions, reap for us an amazing reward we cannot even fathom in the end. Many will find the cost entirely too much to bear, and fall away. True Christians, no less!

It is only the church of the day that says stop being militant! We are soldiers in the Lord’s army we must be diligently about the fathers works. As we see in James, faith without works is dead!! It is not just crowns that will be taken away from us, it is the promises of the Father if we do not keep on doing our part until we die! We are to be about speaking truth no matter the cost to us and it is (the cost) heavy at all times

Our own families turn against us but we are not concerned by that, for the one reason that Jesus said, it would happen and we would be hated by the world for speaking and being in the truth. We are soldiers in the Lord’s army and are going to be crusading throughout the world, those who are mentally emotionally spiritually and physically able to withstand and persevere, in the worst times the world has ever seen. Evil walking among us, with us.

They tell us we are haters, no we are not, we love and so we do not want to see anyone go to hell, not anyone, so we keep speaking truth and exposing liars. People have got to know the truth. Lies and following them blindly, or knowingly even, gets one hell. Jesus is truth and we have to know Him and all of the truth, that is knowing Him.
I am passionate about the truth. It is my life and the Life in the Lord, is knowing who and what is not of God at all times, and making others aware of it with truth.

So people who promote pre tribulation rapture and people who tell people no no you cannot lose your salvation are liars. That is heretical, and it is something that must be exposed. And then most people just say you are judgmental, that is not judging that is showing them with the bible, the scriptures that prove we must be busy working occupying until He comes. Not with the next church social crap or gimmick of the church. But with real repentant revivals.

This country this whole world is a complete wreck and we can know all the truth of the word of God, Because the Holy Spirit does not lie so we study the word diligently and do not for one moment allow someone to speak lies to us when the Holy Spirit has spoken the truth to us through the word of God. That is why if i do not agree with someone i do not go to their church.

The Lord gave me Ezekiel 34 not long ago! read it and understand. Then look at other countries Christianity, and see most of their Christianity is real and deep God is all they have, and still they cling to the cross. They are being beheaded for their faith, right now.

2 Pet 2:4-11 For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment; 5 and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly; 6 and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly;

7 and delivered righteous Lot, who was oppressed by the filthy conduct of the wicked 8 (for that righteous man, dwelling among them, tormented his righteous soul from day to day by seeing and hearing their lawless deeds)— 9 then the Lord knows how to deliver the godly out of temptations and to reserve the unjust under punishment for the day of judgment, 10 and especially those who walk according to the flesh in the lust of uncleanness and despise authority. They are presumptuous, self-willed. They are not afraid to speak evil of dignitaries, 11 whereas angels, who are greater in power and might, do not bring a reviling accusation against them before the Lord.

The Lord is so good but He is not going to look the other way when one sins. I submit to you the truth that God is never changing. No I have heard so many many Christians claim they know this truth, then explain how we are no longer under the Lord of the Old testament just because Jesus came.

We can see without question this is not true. God has not changed how He deals with anyone since the angels chose satan over Him He has always dealt the same way. People are lower than the angels, He did not put up with angels departing and disobedience, He will not put up with people doing so either. Let’s look at Ezekiel 18:24 “But when a righteous man turns away from his righteousness and commits iniquity, and does according to all the abominations that the wicked man does, shall he live? All the righteousness which he has done shall not be remembered; because of the unfaithfulness of which he is guilty and the sin which he has committed, because of them he shall die.

25 “Yet you say, ‘The way of the Lord is not fair.’ Hear now, O house of Israel, is it not My way which is fair, and your ways which are not fair? 26 When a righteous man turns away from his righteousness, commits iniquity, and dies in it, it is because of the iniquity which he has done that he dies. 27 Again, when a wicked man turns away from the wickedness which he committed, and does what is lawful and right, he preserves himself alive.

28 Because he considers and turns away from all the transgressions which he committed, he shall surely live; he shall not die. 29 Yet the house of Israel says, ‘The way of the Lord is not fair.’ O house of Israel, is it not My ways which are fair, and your ways which are not fair?

30 “Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways,” says the Lord God. “Repent, and turn from all your transgressions, so that iniquity will not be your ruin. 31 Cast away from you all the transgressions which you have committed, and get yourselves a new heart and a new spirit. For why should you die, O house of Israel? 32 For I have no pleasure in the death of one who dies,” says the Lord God. “Therefore turn and live!”

Now i want you all to think about this as well. We who come to the Lord through Christ are now joint heirs with Abraham! Understand one who accepts Christ is truly a chosen elect one. No ones comes to the Lord our God Lest the Lord calls them! Galatians 3:29

Then let’s look at Ezekiel 33, and see what it says in there. I want to lay a little ground work here first to make sure people understand. We who work in the Lord and do His will and warn people, are doing what the Lord tells us to do. That is to be watchmen to watch and in Ezekiel 33 the Lord explains concisely to Ezekiel that if he does not warn of danger, anyone who is lost, and not warned by the watchmen first, their blood is on their heads.

I dearly love the two chapters of Ezekiel 33 and 34. 34 is all about shepherds who do not lead the Lord’s sheep but instead take advantage of and harm in all their greed. And that the Lord Himself will care for His own and be their shepherd the only one they need.

Back to EZ 33. 12 “Therefore you, O son of man, say to the children of your people: ‘The righteousness of the righteous man shall not deliver him in the day of his transgression; as for the wickedness of the wicked, he shall not fall because of it in the day that he turns from his wickedness; nor shall the righteous be able to live because of his righteousness in the day that he sins.’ 13 When I say to the righteous that he shall surely live, but he trusts in his own righteousness and commits iniquity, none of his righteous works shall be remembered; but because of the iniquity that he has committed, he shall die.

14 Again, when I say to the wicked, ‘You shall surely die,’ if he turns from his sin and does what is lawful and right, 15 if the wicked restores the pledge, gives back what he has stolen, and walks in the statutes of life without committing iniquity, he shall surely live; he shall not die. 16 None of his sins which he has committed shall be remembered against him; he has done what is lawful and right; he shall surely live.

17 “Yet the children of your people say, ‘The way of the Lord is not fair.’ But it is their way which is not fair! 18 When the righteous turns from his righteousness and commits iniquity, he shall die because of it. 19 But when the wicked turns from his wickedness and does what is lawful and right, he shall live because of it. 20 Yet you say, ‘The way of the Lord is not fair.’ O house of Israel, I will judge every one of you according to his own ways.”

Now keeping in mind at all times that God is never changing, not ever, not in who He is, and not in how He deals with the people of the world. Those who are His, and those who are not, how can anyone then convince themselves, that the Lord has changed one drip drop of Himself? I tell you He has not changed, and it is people tickling itching ears. Better yet it is satan saying that same old tired line, that got Eve at the start of time. Surely you won’t die!

I have been working on this for three months. Every time I read something, another verse or set of verses, came to mind. Every time I read what anyone else has written about this subject, more verses were shown. This study I have found, could really go on forever. I seriously could write a book about this subject. So I have had to cut all I have found down to the most pertinent meaningful verses. I pray that you who reads will receive this with an open heart, to receive truth, as the Lord gave it to me.

Many people argue over the remnant, which will repopulate the millennial kingdom, where it states that the numbers of people in that time, or at the end of it, is numbered more than the sands of the sea! Say what? That is an astronomical number. Anyhow let me back up and say, there are arguments from every camp on who it is that will repopulate the earth. The pre tribulation believers say, it has to be a pre tribulation rapture, because there will not be anyone left who will be alive to populate the earth when Christ comes for Armageddon. I beg to differ! They also say if it was a post tribulation rapture, all the Christians will have been taken up in the rapture so who is left that is human?

The Post tribulation believers have long since had a hard time answering this question. So I set out to prove what the Lord shows in His word is the truth about this. Revelation 12 speaks of some from Israel being protected in the wilderness for the 1260 days of the tribulation. Or as Daniel says, a time times and a half time, as it says the same thing later on in Revelation. The book of Isaiah speaks of the millennial reign and the people who are the remnant that God put’s aside. As do some parts of Joel, Zechariah, Matthew, Isaiah, Zephaniah, Micah, Ezekiel, and Romans as well as many other verses through out the word!

The word says He will gather together after Armageddon, all the peoples from all the nations to Israel. Well those nations that still exist. We know one nation will not exist and I do believe that is America. The Mystery Babylon spoken of in Revelation that is utterly destroyed and also in the book of Jeremiah, chapters 50, and 51! There are going to be those who have not taken the mark. There are those who will survive yes even all of the hell upon this earth. Anarchists are some I believe will refuse to capitulate to being owned and or ruled in such a way. Also we have groups of non Christians who are involved in militias, who will be working hard against the beast system. There is no whole answer put together in the word. It takes a whole lot of study on the subject.

So let’s take a look at chapter 12 of Revelation. Now a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a garland of twelve stars. 2 Then being with child, she cried out in labor and in pain to give birth. 3 And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great, fiery red dragon having seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems on his heads. 4 His tail drew a third of the stars of heaven and threw them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was ready to give birth, to devour her Child as soon as it was born. 5 She bore a male Child who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron. And her Child was caught up to God and His throne. 6 Then the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God that they should feed her there one thousand two hundred and sixty days.

13 Now when the dragon saw that he had been cast to the earth, he persecuted the woman who gave birth to the male Child. 14 But the woman was given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness to her place, where she is nourished for a time and times and half a time, from the presence of the serpent. 15 So the serpent spewed water out of his mouth like a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away by the flood.16 But the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed up the flood which the dragon had spewed out of his mouth. 17 And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. I cannot understand how it is that people do not see here that those who are brought into the wilderness are not believing Israel. The rest of her offspring are we who believe in Christ as Messiah. We have been adopted as joint heirs with believing Israel.

So the woman who birthed the Messiah is Israel. There are those in Israel who do not believe that Jesus is the messiah, these are they which will be protected in the wilderness. Now look how in chapter 12 verses 13-17 it speaks of the woman being flown into the place of her hiding and protection for that time times and a half time. He (satan) sends a flood from his mouth to carry off the woman (Israel). Some people say the flood out of his mouth is an army; I am not concerned with that right now. What I want you to look at here though is verse 17. So many do not see the distinction made here. The dragon was enraged at the woman and went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. Why if they who are going into the wilderness, are believers, does it not say so? Why would there be a distinct sentence added, that says a specific thing? Because a distinction has to be made here!

That is Messianic Jews, as well as Gentiles, who are now grafted into the tree. But the woman is unbelieving Israel, she does not have the testimony of Jesus Christ. That seems to be where so many get confused. Now let’s really get down and dirty here, let’s get our hands deep into it. Let us figure this out together. There are those who are gentiles as well, who do not believe in Jesus Christ, they are waiting to see with their own eyes the Lord. I believe they as well as unbelieving Israel will be those who repopulate the earth during the millennium. We already know that we who have been taken up to meet Jesus in the sky, along with our resurrected relatives, will be immortal and therefore cannot make babies.

Let us go back though to Matthew 24, verses that speak of the whole world mourning at the sight of Jesus. Matt 24: 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. They will mourn, those who did not believe that Jesus was and is Messiah. Look at what Isaiah says of those mourners.

Isaiah 61:1-11 “The Spirit of the Lord God is upon Me, Because the Lord has anointed Me To preach good tidings to the poor; He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives,
And the opening of the prison to those who are bound; 2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord,
And the day of vengeance of our God; To comfort all who mourn, 3 To console those who mourn in Zion,
To give them beauty for ashes, The oil of joy for mourning, The garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; That they may be called trees of righteousness, The planting of the Lord, that He may be glorified.” 4 And they shall rebuild the old ruins, they shall raise up the former desolations, And they shall repair the ruined cities, The desolations of many generations.

5 Strangers shall stand and feed your flocks, And the sons of the foreigner Shall be your plowmen and your vinedressers. 6 But you shall be named the priests of the Lord, They shall call you the servants of our God. You shall eat the riches of the Gentiles, and in their glory you shall boast. 7 Instead of your shame you shall have double honor, and instead of confusion they shall rejoice in their portion. Therefore in their land they shall possess double; Everlasting joy shall be theirs. 8 “For I, the Lord, love justice; I hate robbery for burnt offering; I will direct their work in truth, and will make with them an everlasting covenant.

9 Their descendants shall be known among the Gentiles, and their offspring among the people. All who see them shall acknowledge them, that they are the posterity whom the Lord has blessed.” 10 I will greatly rejoice in the Lord, My soul shall be joyful in my God; For He has clothed me with the garments of salvation, He has covered me with the robe of righteousness, As a bridegroom decks himself with ornaments, And as a bride adorns herself with her jewels. 11 For as the earth brings forth its bud,
As the garden causes the things that are sown in it to spring forth, So the Lord God will cause righteousness and praise to spring forth before all the nations.

Also in chapters 60-62 these whole chapters speaks of the time of the Millennium. 63 goes back in time to the day of God’s wrath. I love how the Lord made it (the word) go back and forth, forward and backward, so only the truly discerning (those with the Holy Spirit) can unravel and figure it out! But read this and see that the Lord is going to turn their ashes into beauty. I am thinking these and others in the world that did not go to the battle of Armageddon will live on after the day of the Lord, and will be brought through to the millennial kingdom. These will be they which repopulate the earth. Look at the judgment Jesus does in Matthew 25

Matthew 25:31-33 31. “When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. 32. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats. 33. And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left. The sheep and the goats are those who went through the tribulation and are still in human form. They are left on earth at the end of the age. They have not been plucked up in the end time harvest of the wicked. Neither have they been glorified with the redeemed in the resurrection/rapture. And so they await a final “sorting out” by the Returning Messiah. This sorting out is the sheep goat judgment. In this judgment Messiah determines which unsaved non wicked Mortals left at the end of this age, are given entry into the millennial kingdom.

What gives me reason to believe this, is simple. The Lord has blinded the Jews until the times of the gentiles be fulfilled. If it was He blinding them on purpose, a certain number of them, then why would He not make provision for a way for them to come back to Him? Time and again the Lord has allowed Israel to be broken up and spread to all different parts of the world, but has always provided a way for them to come back. I honestly believe this is why, even though Jesus comes back and takes His bride up in the sky; there will be those who are left alive. Otherwise not one form of answer to these questions can make a lick of sense. There has always been a remnant, time and again the bible shows, the Lord put aside some to bring back to Israel!

There is no pre tribulation rapture it cannot be proven in the word. There is not one spot in the entire bible that makes anyone, except people who need to believe this lie of satan, believe that Jesus said He is coming back twice or three or four times. There are two count them two comings of the Lord to this earth. One was to bring us back to a relationship with the Lord, He came as our redeemer, and the second time as the Lord of Lords and the reigning King of kings. But let us go on and continue so that hopefully we can see clearly the answer. I have so many verses to put up about the peoples of the Millennium; I barely know where to begin. I have been studying for weeks now and trying to figure it all out to make a clear and concise answer. I found so many many many verses pertaining to this people, that I can scarcely write them all down. So I will pick a few from the vast number.

“And it will come about that just as you were a curse among the nations, O house of Judah and house of Israel, so I will save you that you may become a blessing” (Zechariah 8:13). “ten men from all the nations will grasp the garment of a Jew saying, ‘Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you'” (Zechariah 8:23). Ezekiel 36:10-11 10 ‘I will multiply men on you, all the house of Israel, all of it; and the cities will be inhabited and the waste places will be rebuilt. 11 ‘I will multiply on you man and beast; and they will increase and be fruitful; and I will cause you to be inhabited as you were formerly and will treat you better than at the first. Thus you will know that I am the Lord. You see God made promises to Abraham Isaac and Jacob that have yet to be fulfilled.

We gentiles were given promises as well that we will live and reign as kings and priests with the Lord. “Then the sovereignty, the dominion, and the greatness of all the kingdoms under the whole heaven will be given to the people of the saints of the Highest One; His kingdom will be an everlasting kingdom, and all the dominions will serve and obey Him” (Daniel 7:27). In the New Testament, Paul repeated the same promise in the simplest of terms: “If we endure, we shall also reign with Him” (2 Timothy 2:12). Jesus affirmed the promise in His letter to the church at Thyatira when He wrote: “And he who overcomes, and he who keeps My deeds until the end, to him I will give authority over the nations; and he shall rule them with a rod of iron…” (Revelation 2:26-27).

John in the throne room in his vision, or visit to the heavens, heard this promise to the Saints! “And Thou has made them [the Redeemed] to be a kingdom and priests to our God; and they will reign upon the earth” (Revelation 5:10). This promise to the Church of worldwide dominion is going to be fulfilled during the Millennium. That is what Jesus was referring to in the Sermon on the Mount when He said, “Blessed are the gentle, for they shall inherit the earth” (Matthew 5:5). We surely do not as of yet reign supreme over the earth. We are the minority now a days and going to be even more scarce before all is said and done.

Jesus will reign as king of the world from Mt. Zion in Jerusalem. Here are a few verses to explain this concept. Isaiah 24:23 Then the moon will be abashed and the sun ashamed, For the Lord of hosts will reign on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem, and His glory will be before His elders. Zechariah 14:9 And the Lord will be king over all the earth; in that day the Lord will be the only one, and His name the only one. The Redeemed, in their glorified bodies, will help Him with His reign by serving worldwide as administrators, judges, and spiritual tutors to those who enter the kingdom in the flesh — and to their children. Daniel 7:18 ‘But the saints of the Highest One will receive the kingdom and possess the kingdom forever, for all ages to come. ’Daniel 7:27 ‘Then the sovereignty, the dominion and the greatness of all the kingdoms under the whole heaven will be given to the people of the saints of the Highest One; His kingdom will be an everlasting kingdom, and all the dominions will serve and obey Him.’ Jeremiah 3:15 “Then I will give you shepherds after My own heart, who will feed you on knowledge and understanding.

And one more set of verses. Jesus was speaking about the parable of the Money usage in Luke 19:11-17 11 While they were listening to these things, Jesus went on to tell a parable, because He was near Jerusalem, and they supposed that the kingdom of God was going to appear immediately. 12 So He said, “A nobleman went to a distant country to receive a kingdom for himself, and then return.13 “And he called ten of his slaves, and gave them ten minas and said to them, ‘Do business with this until I come back.’ 14 “But his citizens hated him and sent a delegation after him, saying, ‘We do not want this man to reign over us.’ 15 “When he returned, after receiving the kingdom, he ordered that these slaves, to whom he had given the money, be called to him so that he might know what business they had done. 16 “The first appeared, saying, ‘Master, your mina has made ten minas more.’17 “And he said to him, ‘Well done, good slave, because you have been faithful in a very little thing, you are to be in authority over ten cities.’

Let’s not forget God’s promises to the nations of a world full of peace. God has promised to give Mankind and the earth a rest from its wars. But that peace will not come until the Prince of Peace returns. Only then will the nations “hammer their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks.” Only then will we realize the dream of a world where “nation will not lift up sword against nation, and never again will they learn war” (Isaiah 2:4). All of these promises and the ones I will show you, have not come to pass yet.

In Romans 8 Paul says something quite interesting about the creation itself. Romans 8:18-23 For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us. 19 For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God. 20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope 21 that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. 22 For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now. 23 And not only this, but also we ourselves, having the first fruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our body.

A little off topic here but consider the words of Paul here for a few minutes. The people of the world at large, keeps saying, what on earth is going on with our world? I will tell you something, The Lord created the earth good and perfect. It was not made to house the sin and the evil that it now houses. The Lord says the blood of innocents cries out day and night from the ground. In Genesis 4 you can read how Abels blood cried out but look in Jeremiah and Ezekiel about the blood of innocents! This partially explains why the earth groans and waits for it’s redemption, as well as we His children!

Jer_2:34 Also in thy skirts is found the blood of the souls of the poor innocents: I have not found it by secret search, but upon all these. Jer_7:6 If ye oppress not the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, and shed not innocent blood in this place, neither walk after other gods to your hurt: Jer_19:4 Because they have forsaken me, and have estranged this place, and have burned incense in it unto other gods, whom neither they nor their fathers have known, nor the kings of Judah, and have filled this place with the blood of innocents; Jer_22:3 Thus saith the LORD; Execute ye judgment and righteousness, and deliver the spoiled out of the hand of the oppressor: and do no wrong, do no violence to the stranger, the fatherless, nor the widow, neither shed innocent blood in this place. Jer_22:17 But thine eyes and thine heart are not but for thy covetousness, and for to shed innocent blood, and for oppression, and for violence, to do it. Jer_26:15 But know ye for certain, that if ye put me to death, ye shall surely bring innocent blood upon yourselves, and upon this city, and upon the inhabitants thereof: for of a truth the LORD hath sent me unto you to speak all these words in your ears.

Eze_9:9 Then said he unto me, The iniquity of the house of Israel and Judah is exceeding great, and the land is full of blood, and the city full of perverseness: for they say, The LORD hath forsaken the earth, and the LORD seeth not. Eze_22:3 Then say thou, Thus saith the Lord GOD, The city sheddeth blood in the midst of it, that her time may come, and maketh idols against herself to defile herself. Note: that her time may come, this means, because of innocent blood shed, this stands out as a big reason for the lords time of Judgment. Eze_22:4 Thou art become guilty in thy blood that thou hast shed; and hast defiled thyself in thine idols which thou hast made; and thou hast caused thy days to draw near, and art come even unto thy years: therefore have I made thee a reproach unto the heathen, and a mocking to all countries.

Eze_22:27 Her princes in the midst thereof are like wolves ravening the prey, to shed blood, and to destroy souls, to get dishonest gain. Eze_23:37 That they have committed adultery, and blood is in their hands, and with their idols have they committed adultery, and have also caused their sons, whom they bare unto me, to pass for them through the fire, to devour them. Eze_36:18 Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood that they had shed upon the land, and for their idols wherewith they had polluted it:

Back to reasons for the Lord our God to make a millennium. God promised Jesus His Glory would be seen all over the world. Isaiah 66:18–19 18“For I know their works and their thoughts; the time is coming to gather all nations and tongues. And they shall come and see My glory. 19 “I will set a sign among them and will send survivors from them to the nations: Tarshish, Put, Lud, Meshech, Tubal and 3Javan, to the distant coastlands that have neither heard My fame nor seen My glory. And they will declare My glory among the nations. We know Jesus stayed in Israel through out His time on earth, so this has not been fulfilled as of yet! Also notice the Lord speaking of survivors? There are clues from start to finish in the word. All one must do is read the word as a whole,, to see everything in the word works together to make a perfect and complete picture.

Getting back to the work at hand, look at 2 Thessalonians 1:7–10, 7 and to give relief to you who are afflicted and to us as well when the Lord Jesus will be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels in flaming fire, 8 dealing out retribution to those who do not know God and to those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. 9 These will pay the penalty of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, 10 when He comes to be glorified in His saints on that day, and to be marveled at among all who have believed—for our testimony to you was believed.

Though it may seem to be a fairly rare subject, the idea of a remnant is found 540 times in the Bible! Most of the time, the remnant concept is disguised by the way the words are translated into English. In the Old Testament, remnant is translated by six Hebrew root words, each of which has the underlying meaning of “what is left,” “what remains,” “survivors,” “escapees,” or “the rest.” The one Greek root used in the New Testament and in the Septuagint has the same meaning.

The biblical writers mention at least six different remnants. 1) Survivors of any catastrophe (e.g., Lot survived Sodom). 2) A group of non-Israelite survivors (e.g., “the remnant of Edom,” Amos 9:12). 3) Israelite survivors of the Assyrian invasion in 721-718 BC. 4) Jewish survivors of the Babylonian invasion in 585 BC .5) The remnant of Jews who returned to Judah from Babylon. 6) The remainder of physical Israelites and Jews after the Great Tribulation.

There are many scriptures that speak to us about the mourning of the people upon seeing Jesus. Now Jesus is very forgiving and I am sure that upon seeing Him these people are going to fall flat on their faces in repentance, and with great mourning. The Jews are going to be ripping their clothes and pouring dirt on their heads in mourning, so great will be their pain. We are told they will mourn Revelation 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. Matthew 24:30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.

Also in Zechariah 12:10-14 10 “And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me whom they pierced. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn. 11 In that day there shall be a great mourning in Jerusalem, like the mourning at Hadad Rimmon in the plain of Megiddo. 12 And the land shall mourn, every family by itself: the family of the house of David by itself, and their wives by themselves; the family of the house of Nathan by itself, and their wives by themselves; 13 the family of the house of Levi by itself, and their wives by themselves; the family of Shimei by itself, and their wives by themselves; 14 all the families that remain, every family by itself, and their wives by themselves.

This is clearly speaking of the Israelites mourning big time. I do not know why it is that people actually argue with the bible. It is clear there has always been a remnant that the Lord kept and brought back to Himself. Just as He told Hosea to go take a whore for wife, and made him to love her with an unending love. Each time she strayed away from him, he went and gathered her back home. This shows the mercy and the Love God has for His people the apple of His eye Israel. Time and again Israel has come back to the knowledge of God even in their foreign lands, and He brought them back, in repentance and mourning for the loss of their relationship and for their idolatry. Then He worked wonderful things in them, until again they went back to being prostitutes. Read the story of Hosea and see how God used that prophet, to show Israel His unending mercy and love and grace for the apple of His eye.

Joel 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call. Acts 2:21 And everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.’ Romans 11:26 and in this way all Israel will be saved. As it is written: “The deliverer will come from Zion; he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.Isaiah 4:2 In that day the Branch of the LORD will be beautiful and glorious, and the fruit of the land will be the pride and glory of the survivors in Israel. Jeremiah 31:7 This is what the LORD says: “Sing with joy for Jacob; shout for the foremost of the nations. Make your praises heard, and say, ‘LORD, save your people, the remnant of Israel.’

Amos 9:8 “Surely the eyes of the Sovereign LORD are on the sinful kingdom. I will destroy it from the face of the earth. Yet I will not totally destroy the descendants of Jacob,” declares the LORD. Obadiah 1:17 But on Mount Zion will be deliverance; it will be holy, and Jacob will possess his inheritance. Micah 4:7 I will make the lame my remnant, those driven away a strong nation. The LORD will rule over them in Mount Zion from that day and forever. Amos 9:12 That they may possess the remnant of Edom, and of all the heathen, which are called by my name, saith the LORD that doeth this. See The Lord has in mind a remnant even still, and it is told to us through out the word.

Leviticus 26:6 “‘I will grant peace in the land, and you will lie down and no one will make you afraid. I will remove wild beasts from the land, and the sword will not pass through your country. Job 11:19 You will lie down, with no one to make you afraid, and many will court your favor. Isaiah 10:20 In that day the remnant of Israel, the survivors of Jacob, will no longer rely on him who struck them down but will truly rely on the LORD, the Holy One of Israel. Jeremiah 31:33 “This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel after that time,” declares the LORD. “I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people. Ezekiel 34:13 I will bring them out from the nations and gather them from the countries, and I will bring them into their own land. I will pasture them on the mountains of Israel, in the ravines and in all the settlements in the land. Micah 4:7 I will make the lame my remnant, those driven away a strong nation. The LORD will rule over them in Mount Zion from that day and forever.

I will close with these set of verses; Zephaniah 3:8-13 8 “Therefore wait for Me,” says the Lord,“Until the day I rise up for plunder; My determination is to gather the nations To My assembly of kingdoms,To pour on them My indignation, All My fierce anger; All the earth shall be devoured With the fire of My jealousy. 9 “For then I will restore to the peoples a pure language,that they all may call on the name of the Lord, To serve Him with one accord. 10 From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia My worshipers,The daughter of My dispersed ones, Shall bring My offering. 11 In that day you shall not be shamed for any of your deeds In which you transgress against Me; For then I will take away from your midst those who rejoice in your pride, and you shall no longer be haughty In My holy mountain. 12 I will leave in your midst a meek and humble people, and they shall trust in the name of the Lord. 13 The remnant of Israel shall do no unrighteousness and speak no lies, nor shall a deceitful tongue be found in their mouth; For they shall feed their flocks and lie down, and no one shall make them afraid.”

In Closing I just want to say, when someone wants to stick their feet in the mud, and argue against truth, they will find ways to do it, even if it makes no logical sense what so ever. People can make the bible say anything they want it to, but when you study it altogether, then truth will stand out. It is just plain sad that so many have this watered down ear tickling garbage they call truth, but it in no way, resembles truth. The times that we are in and the times coming will show the truth to those who refuse to believe it for now. Then we will know who truly are the sheep and the goats. Or the wheat and the chaff.

I pray this helps any who have asked this. With all of the word of God I suggest you always seek the Lord in His word for the answers The Holy Spirit will never lead you wrong!

Let’s discuss the Heresies I see in the world today. Some will not agree, and even get angry about what I have to say here, but you need to check yourself and take control of your thoughts and attitude. We are all told to have self-control it is a fruit of the Spirit. I have heard people say I am not responsible for my reactions. I beg to differ. If you have the Holy Spirit within you, then you have got to have the tools to exercise self-control. Galatians 5:23 Temperance in this case is meaning self-control.

I am talking about the heresies that have been brought into these latter times, by people who have themselves, either been fooled or just choose to not have to think about the consequences of their false teaching. 1) Once saved always saved. 2) Jesus is not God. 3) pre tribulation rapture. These are dangerous lies that so many sadly eagerly believe, and whole heartedly adopt. Even convincing themselves those who speak against these lies, are heretics. Satan is a busy fallen angel, and loves to have you believe this garbage, for it leads people to sin.

Now let us get to the nitty gritty. The heresies I speak of are damnable lies brought in by satan, and I will explain how the Lord showed me only too clearly, that I was not the saved person I thought I was for so many years, and was actually on my way to hell. You see I was raised in a Baptist church to believe you could not, no matter how much you sinned, and or lived like hell, lose your salvation. Once sealed always sealed. Then the Lord showed me the very filth I looked like to Him.

I had been swearing smoking pot drinking every weekend, telling dirty jokes, just completely being just like the world. I was not going to church at all or in any way shape or form serving the Lord. I was rude, and could lose my temper at any moment. I had at 12 years old accepted the Lord as my savior and I did mean it at that time with every ounce of my being. But I did not know about repentance. One must repent. This means turn from your wicked ways. Allow the Lord to renew your mind. When I repented and asked him into my heart I also prayed to have the Holy Spirit fill me, immerse me in Him. I prayed Lord give me eyes to see and ears to hear.

Boy oh boy I knew I was baptized in the Holy Spirit right then and there as well. That line of amazing grace I once was blind but now I see had a whole new meaning that blew me away. You see I had, had head knowledge but it came nowhere near my heart, before that day. I then began reading my bible that afternoon, and actually understood every word of what I was reading. I cried so much that night with pure joy.

I turned on my favorite Sunday night shows, desperate house wives and brothers and sisters, after studying the word for a while. Man oh man I could not watch for more than five minutes. I had to turn it off. It grieved my heart so much and hurt my eyes and ears to hear and see what was going on in both shows. I marveled anew at just what had happened to me in so short a time, by truly turning my life over to the Lord. I did a little dance in my living room and then found some preaching to watch instead of the garbage I normally watched.

There too, I found out how much the Holy Spirit works in one, whom He baptizes. My heart was thrilled beyond measure to notice who is false teaching, and who is not. Most of those on TBN are false teachers. Not all of them, but most. I am going to give you a list of 50 or so verses that will help you see clearly that one can and will lose their salvation. It is not as easy as one sin, no which is ridiculous. But one sin that goes on endlessly and is unrepented of will cause you to go to hell. Sinning willfully once you have been saved and brought to truth, will!

I have upon seeing how much I will be writing, decided to break this down into three parts. This one, will deal with the lies, of once saved always saved. Now I want to bring you to a story so many people pass right by and never even notice the significance of the story. It is found in the book of acts and these two were saved people. They lived among the apostles and disciples. Annanias and Sapphira are the names of the people in this particular truth. The story is found in Acts chapter 5. What occurred here had the people fearing the Lord, in a whole new and deeper way.

Acts 5:1-11 But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession. 2 And he kept back part of the proceeds, his wife also being aware of it, and brought a certain part and laid it at the apostles’ feet. 3 But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and keep back part of the price of the land for yourself? 4 While it remained, was it not your own? And after it was sold, was it not in your own control? Why have you conceived this thing in your heart? You have not lied to men but to God.”

5 Then Ananias, hearing these words, fell down and breathed his last. So great fear came upon all those who heard these things. 6 And the young men arose and wrapped him up, carried him out, and buried him.
7 Now it was about three hours later when his wife came in, not knowing what had happened. 8 And Peter answered her, “Tell me whether you sold the land for so much?” She said, “Yes, for so much.”

9 Then Peter said to her, “How is it that you have agreed together to test the Spirit of the Lord? Look, the feet of those who have buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out.” 10 Then immediately she fell down at his feet and breathed her last. And the young men came in and found her dead, and carrying her out, buried her by her husband. 11 So great fear came upon all the church and upon all who heard these things.

So if those who lived with the men of the Lord, and amid all the congregation died due to one lie. See that? One lie, just one lie! What makes people think it is ok to sin willy nilly? We are all going to sin and make mistakes friends and brothers and sisters. As long as we repent we can be forgiven. But this was a lie devised for no good purpose other than that this couple just wanted to keep some for themselves just in case? Who knows really, it was a stupid lie, and one they paid for with their life!

One can assume they died and went to hell, because the verse in Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and fornicators, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. There are a whole lot of and’s in this verse wouldn’t you say? And, in this case meaning, with. I do not know how anyone can convince themselves; this does not include those who have been saved. Liars the bible says a few times are children of the father of lies, satan. John 8:44.

Annanias and Sapphira died in their sin, due to their sin. I have plenty more verses. Let’s look at the parable of the sower. Matthew 13 3 Then he told them many things in parables, saying: “A farmer went out to sow his seed. 4 As he was scattering the seed, some fell along the path, and the birds came and ate it up. 5 Some fell on rocky places, where it did not have much soil. It sprang up quickly, because the soil was shallow. 6 But when the sun came up, the plants were scorched, and they withered because they had no root.7 Other seed fell among thorns, which grew up and choked the plants. 8 Still other seed fell on good soil, where it produced a crop—a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown. 9 Whoever has ears, let them hear.”

This parable is in Luke too. I think personally I like Luke’s rendition a little bit more it gives a deeper understanding.

4 And when a great multitude had gathered, and they had come to Him from every city, He spoke by a parable: 5 “A sower went out to sow his seed. And as he sowed, some fell by the wayside; and it was trampled down, and the birds of the air devoured it. 6 Some fell on rock; and as soon as it sprang up, it withered away because it lacked moisture.7 And some fell among thorns, and the thorns sprang up with it and choked it. 8 But others fell on good ground, sprang up, and yielded a crop a hundredfold.” When He had said these things He cried, “He who has ears to hear, let him hear!”

Jesus taught the truth about losing eternal life in the parable of the sower. In explaining the seed which fell among the thorns and the rocks, Jesus said, “Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved. They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.” Luke 8:12, 13.

There are several things to note about this parable. First, only one class will finally be saved – the ones who brought forth much fruit. The groups represented by the wayside and rocks will not be saved. In verse 12, the wayside hearers did not have a chance to “believe and be saved,” but in the next verse the stony ground hearers do “for a while believe.” What kind of “believing” is this? According to verse 12, it is the kind that saves. So the ones who believed for a while were saved for a while, but in time of temptation they fell away. Eventually, of course, they were lost along with all the others, except the fruit-bearers. Here is an unequivocal teaching of our Lord that people can have a saving faith for a while, and yet lose it and be lost.

Talking yourself into believing this lie is really a horrible thing. Our minds are very strong things, and when we do not wish to hear certain things, we then become stubborn fools and just go on believing this nonsense, to our own detriment. People open your heart your eyes and ears and hear the Lord. He will show you clearly in His word the truth. The Holy Spirit leads us into all truth and gives us remembrance and guides and directs us along the right paths, if we allow. I am not talking about how about it Lord??? Then moving on with no answer, no seek the truth and you will find it, with all your heart seek it. You do not want to be wrong in this.

I am going to list all the verses that say clearly the answer to all of this truth that one certainly can lose their salvation. If I wrote them all out it would take pages to do. I have already 5 pages worth here. Please do not be lazy in this it is detrimental to your eternity to understand this. Pull out your bible pray earnestly seeking the Lord to fill you with the understanding that the Holy Spirit only can give you. Ask for eyes to see and ears to hear, and a pure heart to understand. Ask the Lord to help you get rid of your preconceived notions, and what you have been taught by well meaning, but wrong pastors. I know you love your pastor but he is a man, he was taught also.

John 15:5-6, I am writing these 2 out due to the importance of them. These are red letter verses please understand what Jesus is saying here. 5 ‘I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. 6 If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned. He is clearly saying if you do not remain in me here folks. Simple you will wither and die and be thrown into the fire. Huge, Humongous meaning in two simple verses. The Lord Himself saying truth right here for all to see.

Heb 6:4-8, 1Tim 4:1, Matt 10:22, Luke 12:45-46, Matt 5:13, Ezek 33:18 <<< that is a biggie. It still matters, for the Lord says, the whole bible in 2 Tim 3:16, is good for instruction correction and so on and so forth. Exodus 32:33, Psalm 69:28, these are more about blotting your name out of the book of life, these Old Testament verses. It has always been understood the Lord is never changing. Just because Jesus came and fulfilled the requirements, does not mean the instruction from the OT is done away with. Jesus fulfilled the law in all His ways, and now it is written on our hearts. He gave us two commandments one Love the Lord your God with all your heart soul and mind. Two love your neighbor as yourself.

2 Pet 2:20-22, 1 Cor 13:2, Phil2:12, Matt 10:28, 1 John 2:24-25, Matt 6:15, James 2:24, this is a biggie here too. 24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. You need to see what justified means. Justified,=To be just or right: Theology. To declare innocent or guiltless; absolve; acquit. 1. vindicate; validate. 2. excuse. See to be right to be innocent, guiltless. And so on. Even though Jesus paid for our past sins and the slate has been wiped clean, now you’re working to keep that slate clean. Each time you sin you must repent and then the slate gets wiped clean once again. But if you decide to not repent then your goose is cooked. Then your slate has marks on it. Dirty filthy greasy marks

James said a man is not only justified by faith but by his works as well. Deciding you have no part in maintaining your salvation is a fool’s errand. It is detrimental to remaining in Him that you be doers of the word, not only hearers. James 2:14, James 2:20, Rev 3:5, Matt 5:22, James 2:19. 2 Thess 1:8, Heb 10:26, Matt 12:32, Matt 7:21, 1 Cor 9:27, Paul even said he was afraid to be disqualified. Let’s look at that word as well. Disqualified = to deprive of legal, official, or other rights or privileges; declare ineligible or unqualified. Ineligible, makes big sense here. I love words and know words big time. I honestly found it wonderful to study words and their meaning as a child. We have to look at what the words mean here people. Then we can have a more full understanding of what the Lord is speaking of. One more explanation of the word disqualified. To deprive of the right to participate in or win a contest because of a violation of the rules.

1 Cor 10:12, 1 Pet1:15-16, Romans 11:22, 2 Pet 3:1-2, 1 John 2:28, Matt 18:9, Read all of Matthew 18 for a stronger clearer understanding of the verse. Mark 9:47-48, Heb 3:13-14, Rev 2:5, Rev 3:5, Rev 17:8. Friends we have got to get all of this straight. We must be pure and holy as our Father in Heaven is Holy. We must be perfect or as near perfect as we can possibly be. Striving always to be better than we were. We must constantly be learning to walk along side of Jesus. He called us friends; friends walk side by side, neither in front, nor in back but side by side. You have to decide for yourself do you want to be Jesus friend? Or do you want to be a friend of the world?

We cannot be eternally secure unless our faith is eternally fixed on Jesus. We must run the race to win. Not to faint and fall away from it then we will not receive the prize. Read that from Paul in 1Cor 9:24. I know you want that prize. I want you to understand something here. Those who take the mark are dead to the Lord, their name gets blotted out of the book of life. There is no pre tribulation rapture so those who believe these horrible lies are doomed. If you believe your safe because Jesus did it all, that lie will show you up as a fool in a hurry on judgment day. Jesus paid the price he took our place for our sin payment, but we have to as he said in John remain in Him and He remain in us. He will not leave you but you can choose to walk away from Him.

We still have free will folks. He never took that from us. We are free to choose to continue walking in Him, or to walk away. The Lord is not a game player. He does not respect your thoughts and your ways of getting around His very stern warnings. Jesus spoke more of hell than He did heaven. This is not a hopeless thing, no it is hopeful. Think about it this way, Satan has been lying since day one. He lied to Eve and said surely you won’t die in Genesis. She bought the lie and brought death upon the world once the man ate of the fruit. What makes more sense you can lose your salvation therefore you’re going to work your tail off to stay in the masters good graces, or are you going to believe satans lies, and believe you cannot lose your salvation? Satan wants you to lose your salvation. He wants you to think you can go ahead and sin your butt off, and never lose your place in God’s eyes, or His eternity.

Don’t take the Lord for granted. Divorces are forged all the time, due to one or the other partner taking the other for granted. Taking advantage of the others good graces. This is not lovely or right it is dirty and terrible and sad for all concerned. Do not be dirty and manipulative with the word of the Lord, to suit yourself. You have to see the word in truth and with the help of the Holy Spirit. I pray you will understand this very important thing once and for all. I pray that for those who read this Father in the name of Jesus. I pray Lord help them see the truth Lord!

Love in Christ Jesus,
Tammy


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