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Jan-24-17

The 24 Elders Of Revelation

posted by PrayerWarrior

I have heard even people I trust immensely with the word of God seem to come to a conclusion that these 24 elders are redeemed human beings. However, the word of God clears this up when you put all of the talking points about these and who and what they are together. So many ignore the fact that the beasts are heavenly beings and yet they are singing right along side of those elders, the same song as the elders, that they have been redeemed but the four living creatures are clearly not humans and never have been. This to me is wrong in so many ways on so many levels.

The beasts are not redeemed from the earth by the lamb and have indeed been there for a long time as we saw that Ezekiel saw them when he had visions. The creatures also sing with the 24 elders the same song as the elders!
Ezekiel 1:5 Within it there were figures resembling four living beings. And this was their appearance: they had human form.
Ezekiel 1:18 As for their rims they were lofty and awesome, and the rims of all four of them were full of eyes round about.
Ezekiel 1:22 Now over the heads of the living beings there was something like an expanse, like the awesome gleam of crystal, spread out over their heads.
Ezekiel 10:12 Their whole body, their backs, their hands, their wings and the wheels were full of eyes all around, the wheels belonging to all four of them.

Daniel saw these also. But he describes thrones in heaven Daniel 7:9. Something else I noticed, which people seem to forget as they place their own meaning and or interpretation upon the word, that not only are redeemed humans in white but so are angels and spirits, and so is Jesus in White. So white clothing or raiment cannot be construed as saying that those in white are only the redeemed!

Revelation 4:4 Around the throne were twenty-four thrones, and on the thrones, I saw twenty-four elders sitting, clothed in white robes; and they had crowns of gold on their heads. 7 The first living creature was like a lion, the second living creature like a calf, the third living creature had a face like a man, and the fourth living creature was like a flying eagle. 8 The four living creatures, each having six wings, were full of eyes around and within. And they do not rest day or night, saying: “Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, Who was and is and is to come!”

In Isaiah 6: 2 Above it stood seraphim; each one had six wings: with two he covered his face, with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew. 3 And one cried to another and said: “Holy, holy, holy is the Lord of hosts; The whole earth is full of His glory!”

So since these have been doing this forever crying out how Holy the Lord our God is and these thrones Daniel saw were already there before the NT and no one went to heaven before the Lord ascended back to where He came from, this to me is partial proof that these 24 elders are not human and never have been. I have more proof as well, so hang in there with me!

Now the 24 elders we can see in 1 Chronicles 24:1-19 everything David was shown about what the temple on earth should look like, was all a perfect copy of what is in heaven and has been since before time began. The 24 thrones the 24 elders here on earth, all replica’s of what heaven has. God is no respecter of men, so it makes sense there is no human being honored in heaven above any other no matter how much they did for God and in the Lord.

These 24 elders do not get redeemed as we can see in Revelation 19 they are still there and not invited to the weddings feast of the lamb. Something else you need to notice is this, the wedding feast of the lamb has finally come and this is right after the Lamb/the lion of the tribe of Judah, The Lord our God in the form of Jesus, is finally pouring out the wrath of God.

Look with me. Revelation 19:1-5 After these things I heard a loud voice of a great multitude in heaven, saying, “Alleluia! Salvation and glory and honor and power belong to the Lord our God! 2 For true and righteous are His judgments, because He has judged the great harlot who corrupted the earth with her fornication; and He has avenged on her the blood of His servants shed by her.” 3 Again they said, “Alleluia! Her smoke rises up forever and ever!”

4 And the twenty-four elders and the four living creatures fell down and worshiped God who sat on the throne, saying, “Amen! Alleluia!” 5 Then a voice came from the throne, saying, “Praise our God, all you His servants and those who fear Him, both small and great!”
Why aren’t these supposedly redeemed 24 elders shouting with us but instead are giving their own worship and praise to the Lord? Because this is what they have done since Heaven was made, and that is what they will do for eternity.

But let’s go back to Revelation 4 and Revelation 5 and check it out a little better.

4 Around the throne were twenty-four thrones, and on the thrones, I saw twenty-four elders sitting, clothed in white robes; and they had crowns of gold on their heads.
9 Whenever the living creatures give glory and honor and thanks to Him who sits on the throne, who lives forever and ever, 10 the twenty-four elders fall down before Him who sits on the throne and worship Him who lives forever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying: 11 “You are worthy, O Lord, To receive glory and honor and power; For You created all things, And by Your will they exist and were created.”

Let’s keep going. Revelation 5:8 Now when He had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each having a harp, and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints. 9 And they sang a new song, saying: “You are worthy to take the scroll, And to open its seals; For You were slain, And have redeemed us to God by Your blood Out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation, 10 And have made us kings and priests to our God; And we shall reign on the earth.”

While it is these beings the 24 elders saying or singing this so are the four creatures or beasts. Those beasts have been seen by all the prophets who have seen into heaven in the past. They seem to be tied together irrevocably. Those beats have been screaming out how Holy The Lord is and when they do the 24 elders fall down and worship every time.

Now look at this set of verses and let’s see if I can’t show what the Lord made abundantly clear to me. Rev 19:6-8
6 And I heard, as it were, the voice of a great multitude, as the sound of many waters and as the sound of mighty thunderings, saying, “Alleluia! For the Lord God Omnipotent reigns! 7 Let us be glad and rejoice and give Him glory, for the marriage of the Lamb has come, and His wife has made herself ready.” 8 And to her it was granted to be arrayed in fine linen, clean and bright, for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints.

The 24 elders in heaven on their 24 thrones already have their white fine linen you mean to tell me they have already been rewarded, when the time of the reward of the saints is being shown here after Christ has destroyed the enemies of God? Judgment day is the last day, it is the {DAY} of the Lord which according to Zechariah 14:7 is one day only!

We will be taken up out of the way into the skies, nowhere does it ever say we are up in heaven celebrating while some of the Lord’s bride are still here being tortured maimed and killed for their witness of the Lord. Which that makes no sense if there is supposedly no Holy Spirit to convict the hearts of mankind and there is no Christians to teach the truth of the word of God, which no one can do in their own strength anyway. So pre-tribulation believers (false believers) have no understanding and show repeatedly they do not understand the word of God.

Revelation 11:16-18 And the twenty-four elders who sat before God on their thrones fell on their faces and worshiped God, 17 saying: “We give You thanks, O Lord God Almighty, The One who is and who was and who is to come Because You have taken Your great power and reigned. 18 The nations were angry, and Your wrath has come, And the time of the dead, that they should be judged, And that You should reward Your servants the prophets and the saints, And those who fear Your name, small and great, And should destroy those who destroy the earth.”

Now read that again because I am sure you missed it, as I had done many times before the Lord showed me this particular part of the prophecy. It is time to judge the dead and reward your saints. The elders are saying this to the Lord. How is it that the 24 elders are there at all if the saints have not been rewarded yet, and the dead have not been resurrected and judged yet?

We know from 1 Thessalonians 4 13-18 that the dead are resurrected first and the saints who are left alive in the blink of an eye, are changed into perfect immortal incorruptible human beings. So in light of those scriptures that makes no sense, that these elders are dead men who have already been rewarded as we know God never does anything in separation between one human being to another. God is no respecter of men period.

In Rev 19 the 24 elders are not singing with the throngs of humans who have just been resurrected/redeemed off the earth, they have their own praise and worship they are doing. They are not with the redeemed they are still right there with God and the 4 living creatures. God does not author confusion and when one want’s to find out the truth for themselves, we do not go to men but directly to the one who is Yes and Amen, we go to the author of Life the very word who put on flesh, Jesus Christ!

I ask men and they all have a different answer, and cannot explain satisfactorily enough how and why they arrived at their notions. So I go to the Father instead. I will pray and fast until I get the answer as well of course, as studying the word of God to get the truth. God does not let anyone down not ever. When we stand before Him there will be no excuses of why we did not for ourselves, know the word of God. We have the bible everywhere and at the ready! Yet there are many who just refuse to learn the word for themselves and that is such a pity.

The truth is out there for all of us to know and learn and live in faith and learn to grow in Him. We just have to seek His face for the answers! Pray and plead for your answers then go seeking them from the word of God. Look for the verses that carry the information you are seeking and then study those verses in their proper context and you will find all the answers right there in the word. I don’t even expect people to take my word for it, I expect everyone to go and seek for themselves, the truth.


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